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‘Hip-hop is the new avant garde’: John Cale on Lou Reed, anger and continual reinvention

Even over the phone from Los Angeles, John Cale has a certain presence. It’s not just the still resonant Welsh lilt of his speaking voice or the way he takes his time to settle on the right words, more his tangential way of thinking – about music, songwriting, the world in general.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jun/16/john-cale-poptical-illusion-lou-reed-aaron-copland

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